Bevan Barton

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Replying to @james (0xb89465f04caf9334d3d116637ac2a9c4aa8dcff6)

State channels are the best but you lose intermediate state + must keep an eye on timeouts. Plasma is great but you lose decentralization. Both have free / instant tx. Subchains retain state and decentralization, free tx when batched, more tx per rootchain block.

Sep 23, 2018 23:28 Enso 1 Enso

Replying to @james (0xb89465f04caf9334d3d116637ac2a9c4aa8dcff6)

You canโ€™t transfer assets from a subchain to a rootchain (I question how necessary that is) but I believe you could sell an asset on a subchain to someone on a rootchain by building some sort of escrow scheme into the subchain manager ๐Ÿค”

Atomic Swaps work fine for this, doesn't need to built into the chain manager.

Sep 17, 2018 01:37

Replying to @Decentraland (0x08b2852dcf6562c7f6027713624bbdbe84c6ddf4)

Updated: Developer Tutorial: Object Transitions and Rotations. Learn how to use transition and rotation settings when moving entities around your scenes. https://blog.decentraland.org/developer-tutorial-object-transitions-and-rotations-b00d367decb

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Sep 15, 2018 12:17

Also just like plasma you can make subchains of subchains, though Iโ€™m not sure why you would want to ๐Ÿ˜„

Sep 15, 2018 02:27

You canโ€™t transfer assets from a subchain to a rootchain (I question how necessary that is) but I believe you could sell an asset on a subchain to someone on a rootchain by building some sort of escrow scheme into the subchain manager ๐Ÿค”

Sep 15, 2018 02:26

Replying to @james (0xb89465f04caf9334d3d116637ac2a9c4aa8dcff6)

State channels are the best but you lose intermediate state + must keep an eye on timeouts. Plasma is great but you lose decentralization. Both have free / instant tx. Subchains retain state and decentralization, free tx when batched, more tx per rootchain block.

All useful for different types of projects / goals.

Sep 15, 2018 01:57

State channels are the best but you lose intermediate state + must keep an eye on timeouts. Plasma is great but you lose decentralization. Both have free / instant tx. Subchains retain state and decentralization, free tx when batched, more tx per rootchain block.

Sep 15, 2018 01:53

Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)

Could event batch instructions, have a relayer pay gas on the root chain.

Yes definitely! Increases capability of root chain by batching many txs into one.

Sep 15, 2018 01:46

Replying to @veox (0xf75b78571f6563e8acf1899f682fb10a9248cce8)

Yay! Been wanting something like this since #PeepethReader by @james got... eh... borked.

Good to see alternatives popping up ๐Ÿ˜„

Sep 14, 2018 07:23

Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)

I believe that the Peepeth Reader by @james doesnโ€™t support parsing free peeping peeps.

Yeah I haven't updated Peepeth Reader since that first release ๐Ÿ˜

Sep 14, 2018 07:21

Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)

#lkie very nice.

Thanks ๐Ÿ˜€ the demo contract is kinda bad because it doesn't demonstrate the gas savings that well. Subchains enable much more complex contracts where you can spend ~25,000 gas to execute a transaction worth 1 million gas for example.

Sep 14, 2018 07:10

I was inspired by all the hackathon projects this week so I did my own mini project ๐Ÿ˜„ subchains driven by stateless smart contracts! Code: https://github.com/IncentiveLoop/subchain Demo: https://example-vuvtafpegl.now.sh/ - beware will most likely break lol

Sep 14, 2018 03:45

Replying to @james (0xb89465f04caf9334d3d116637ac2a9c4aa8dcff6)

But then again, does burning money really indicate quality? Or does it just indicate that the poster is well-to-do and likes the sound of their own voice?

Even if it did indicate quality, is quality worth the loss of accessibility? Probably not. ๐Ÿค”

Jun 08, 2018 04:04

Replying to @james (0xb89465f04caf9334d3d116637ac2a9c4aa8dcff6)

Yeah, though I think it might be unfair for me to call it spam. It was more just an increase in low quality posts. I say low quality because the user in question did not value their thoughts highly enough to share them for ~1c previously.

But then again, does burning money really indicate quality? Or does it just indicate that the poster is well-to-do and likes the sound of their own voice?

Jun 08, 2018 04:03 Enso 1 Enso

Replying to @Bevan (0x30755d3e65c0cf46c35b72d11e52d941c5fc3a3e)

Thanks @james. Didn't realize you'd already tried it out! Interesting about the spam problem with free posting.

Yeah, though I think it might be unfair for me to call it spam. It was more just an increase in low quality posts. I say low quality because the user in question did not value their thoughts highly enough to share them for ~1c previously.

Jun 08, 2018 04:02

Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)

I want the flood gates opened. Release the flood!! I didnโ€™t realise you had done a front end batch save of signed messages on Leeroy. The beauty is the front end can stop bad actors from peeping for free or even batching. They can still peep direct to the smart contract.

๐Ÿ˜„ you could write a competing Peepeth client with free posts as default! Now that would be interesting.

Jun 05, 2018 04:05

Replying to @AustinGriffith (0x34aa3f359a9d614239015126635ce7732c18fdf3)

Holy moly, gas is all the way down to 4 gwei right now! Let's play some https://cryptogs.io!

So glad the gas market is starting to cool off a bit.

Jun 05, 2018 01:52

Replying to @james (0xb89465f04caf9334d3d116637ac2a9c4aa8dcff6)

Nice work on the scaling solution @Bevan! I used the same approach at Leeroy for a couple of days (see link below). Problem was the spam was crazy. Brilliant idea to make free posts unlockable instead of just opening the flood gates ๐Ÿ‘Œ

What I love about this approach is that the worst case scenario is the provider refuses to publish your content to the blockchain, in which case you just publish your content directly.

Jun 05, 2018 01:47

Nice work on the scaling solution @Bevan! I used the same approach at Leeroy for a couple of days (see link below). Problem was the spam was crazy. Brilliant idea to make free posts unlockable instead of just opening the flood gates ๐Ÿ‘Œ

Jun 05, 2018 01:44

Replying to @mitchell (0x5f9e3c22ba69211d0bf848fbb965db6ee3f89608)

Can anyone explain to a non-technical noob - what is actually happening when I do a โ€œpasswordlessโ€ sign in? Why is it required and how is it secure if thereโ€™s no password involved (I assume itโ€™s not an intended access control)?

Apr 25, 2018 23:43

Encryption support is coming to MetaMask soon ๐ŸŽ‰ https://github.com/MetaMask/eth-sig-util/pull/18

Apr 23, 2018 06:31
Apr 23, 2018 06:27

Replying to @Bevan (0x30755d3e65c0cf46c35b72d11e52d941c5fc3a3e)

@johnhenry Welcome John! You're #1000 :)

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Apr 23, 2018 06:26
Apr 23, 2018 00:31

Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)

That's one of the reasons I disagree with the people claiming that memo.cash is gonna be the major twitter blockchain counterpart. It's built on the bitcoin cash blockchain compared to a project like this built on ethereum, which is actually built for decentralized applications.

Absolutely, Peepeth has access to all the creativity that the dapp ecosystem has to offer.

Apr 16, 2018 01:18

Replying to @flygoing (0xec3281124d4c2fca8a88e3076c1e7749cfecb7f2)

hey peeps!

Hi #707 ๐Ÿ˜€

Apr 16, 2018 01:05

Replying to @fraser (0x6e90cd428b731b9ece2a2405c096a9e1902780ac)

Hello peepeth world.

Welcome, @frassmith!

Apr 16, 2018 01:04

It is fun to think about the inevitable embeddable dapps that will come to Peepeth. From your feed you could play with your CK, vote on a proposal for your Aragon DOA, make a 0x trade, etc.

Apr 16, 2018 00:59

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

Hey Peeple - I'm trying to spread awareness for the Peepeth platform... again on reddit, but this time /r/ethereum Check it out - chime in with what you love about Peepeth! https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/8cgysu/an_intro_to_peepeth_the_real_crypto_twitter_and/

Nice one!

Apr 16, 2018 00:42

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

Thank you for that, @james. I was considering the implications of these developments. If a sidechain dApp is not quite as secure - could it be "secure enough"? I have no idea... I suppose it depends primarily on the cost differential? Tell us more!

Yeah potentially secure enough, it depends on what you are going for. If you want chain-level community moderation it would be easier to convince a known group of DPoS operators to fork out content compared to the whole Ethereum network.

Apr 16, 2018 00:41

Replying to @Skyler (0x8c0e1c1b7ca56cbf74b88de1c07e0a7216ee90b6)

Was just thinking Peepeth is a perfect candidate for a dApphain. Definitely check out Loom, they're integrating with Plasma too. https://delegatecall.com/ is a live "dAppchain" on Loom Network

Sidechains are super cool but mostly allow for value generated in a network (e.g. tips, tokens) to be captured and transferred to the main chain. The actual content (e.g. posts) stored on a sidechain would not be as secure as content anchored directly on Ethereum.

Apr 16, 2018 00:15

Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)

Less posts than users? Iโ€™m over 900 peeps now. I think Peepeth came along at the right time. Low gas currently, multiple mobile dApp browsers offering good experience. Neither was true a few months ago.

Yes people mostly just signed up and followed a bunch of people. Leeroy did see an uptick in posts when I briefly explored scaling solutions: https://leeroy.io/ethgasstation/post/0x9efcf2ccbcf6da027bc3497f501e9c6967929974ac3650cec23662971cc6ef16

Apr 15, 2018 23:52

Replying to @spengrah (0x26521ede6e1796c6faee57cbc68a178e78d8e23e)

Just read about stateless contracts from this post by @james Good stuff! Definitely involves some trade-offs (as the article mentions), but a clever approach to gas conservation! https://medium.com/@childsmaidment/stateless-smart-contracts-21830b0cd1b6

Cheers Spencer ๐Ÿค˜

Apr 11, 2018 04:49

Peepeth is now featured on ProductHunt, add your feedback if you haven't already: https://www.producthunt.com/posts/peepeth

Apr 04, 2018 07:04

Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)

IPFS I assume there will have to be some cost for storage. I wonder if we will still see some rent for transaction inputs (at a much low cost than state).

It is interesting to think about who foots the bill when we get to that point. Does Peepeth use Infura for IPFS at the moment @bevan?

Apr 04, 2018 00:35

Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)

Leeroy and Peepeth have shown the way for a purely public platform. Cost is solved using a stateless contract and can be reduced further through batching. (Though long term rent onchain and IPFS need to be taken into account).

One cool thing about stateless design is that it relies on storing content in transaction inputs rather than contract storage, so AFAIK existing posts should not incur rental fees. Not sure about IPFS though.

Apr 03, 2018 03:31

Made a super basic, read-only client for Peepeth to demonstrate how cool all of this is ๐Ÿ˜‹ doesn't touch the Peepeth servers, reads confirmed posts from the blockchain and IPFS: https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmQwNcHfjEXndwagt8ECp3hEXcfCtBJwmNoiKkNXyhs9pG

Mar 30, 2018 01:54

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

@James - so glad you're here. Awesome of you to promote Peepeth on Leeroy. I won't ever forgot my first true blockchain microblogging love and the dev that made it happen. I hope these "experiments" you guys pioneered disrupt the entire social networking space and their revenue

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Mar 30, 2018 01:50

Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)

Welcome @James As always we are standing on the shoulders of giants. via #Cipher

Thanks Andrew ๐Ÿ‘

Mar 23, 2018 01:21

Replying to @Bevan (0x30755d3e65c0cf46c35b72d11e52d941c5fc3a3e)

Welcome @james, and thank you! Everyone, James created Leeroy, paving the way for Peepeth. Very grateful for your work!

Thank you! :)

Mar 23, 2018 01:19

Any way to batch tips?

Mar 23, 2018 01:11

Whoa yes love the batch saving.

Mar 23, 2018 01:08

Hey #peeps, I'm excited to give peepeth a test drive! Will try to bring some Leeroy users in here when the time is right.

Mar 23, 2018 01:07
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