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Replying to @MyCrypto (0x3186f968aaa3a670354e33a9ad679d98858dda5b)

We've just raised $4M in our Series A funding round from Polychain, BoostVC, ShapeShift, Ausum Ventures, and an incredible handful of individuals. Learn more about the round, our investors, and our future: https://medium.com/mycrypto/our-first-funding-round-9acf048c9d05

Nice!

Aug 30, 2018 18:53

Replying to @SuisseCrypto (0xdc0e1bbd483210a37154e02dd2d869bb9714e489)

I am firmly convinced that the Ethereum community will drive innovation further and manage those "growth are the key success" factors! And since Rome wasn't built in a day, ETH should allow itself the time required for successful (right) scaling.

Of course, we're all here for the long haul with Ethereum.

Aug 30, 2018 08:57

Replying to @SuisseCrypto (0xdc0e1bbd483210a37154e02dd2d869bb9714e489)

If the price of ETH is correlated to the usage of the chain, then we need some scaling. The network activity can not further increase: https://media.consensys.net/state-of-ethereum-protocol-1-d3211dd0f6

Yep, scaling has to be solved (without sacrificing #decentralization) and if any dev community in the world can achieve it, I believe Ethereum's has the best chance.

Aug 30, 2018 08:34

I'd buy that for a dollar!

Aug 30, 2018 07:08

Replying to @TaavetiBSG (0x1d18e6494ce1e5f12eae7df7a44a9156bbc9941f)

I would like to know how your plan on setting up a process that is unbiased. I can think of examples... like people that are into holistic medicine or anti-vac.. I disagree with this point.. but they mean no harm by recommending their POV. How does that play out?

People can use the mute button -- if you don't agree with someone you can mute them, or if you're open to debating them then debate :)

Aug 29, 2018 21:29

Replying to @AlbertC (0xa4d9aaf4adccdd5349fe8a1f753130d727fa23f3)

One popular podcaster does away with ads entirely, in favor of user support: https://www.thatseemsimportant.com/content/sam-harris-content-creator-supporting-work-without-running-ads/

“...The one ad I read for a while was for Audible, which I do use and love. But even [then] I don’t feel ... comfortable telling you that you should subscribe to Audible. I mean…should you? Perhaps you shouldn’t? I have no idea. Let that go down as the worst Audible ad ever..."😂

Aug 29, 2018 21:10

Replying to @JakobPovel (0x995d1bdfd5cdbd31d306d650c2e9f19e5a38bb25)

That is great, I was wondering about this part. Very awesome, thanks for the info.

Fo sho!

Aug 29, 2018 20:42

Replying to @conlan (0xa7f3dfed2bcf7b35a8824e11ae8f723650edfb58)

For sure! I enjoy a friendly debate :) It’s not about them making too much it’s that certain content should be enjoyed as intended and not cheapened or distracted by ads. Ideally we should only be consuming ads in the right context, ie shopping, waiting, decision-making, etc.

It's true that our current advertising is not enough to subsidize other services, but with better targeting the right ad at the right time can be worth so much more.

Aug 29, 2018 20:42

Replying to @tnotm (0xeac76c5ad6de18749700306df11b09c261346be1)

Subsidized? I don't think there is enough revenue from one stream of advertising. Web advertising is junk compared to the podcast and music. I don't remember the last time I visited HI or JRE websites. Are we talking about them making too much money? Because now we have a debate.

For sure! I enjoy a friendly debate :) It’s not about them making too much it’s that certain content should be enjoyed as intended and not cheapened or distracted by ads. Ideally we should only be consuming ads in the right context, ie shopping, waiting, decision-making, etc.

Aug 29, 2018 20:41

Replying to @tnotm (0xeac76c5ad6de18749700306df11b09c261346be1)

What do you think about add all in the front and shortlisted at the back, compared to right in the middle at intervals? Hello Internet is a interval show, while Joe Rogan is up front. I listen to both, and find Joe's easier to fast forward, and listen to the ones on HI.

I'd opt for upfront ads since they're easier to fast forward past. In general though I prefer the revenue model behind basicattentiontoken.org, utilized by Brave.com. Content like music and podcasts should be ad-free, subsidized by ads viewed on other sites / different contexts.

Aug 29, 2018 20:27

Replying to @Ando (0xaea13531ab3726086a02fd9254ee3dc37c876442)

Someone with machine learning skills should put them to use and make an automatic ad skipper for podcasts.

Love this idea XD

Aug 29, 2018 20:19

Replying to @Bevan (0x30755d3e65c0cf46c35b72d11e52d941c5fc3a3e)

Peepeth's contract is named "Peepeth", but that's about it. You actually don't need a contract to build something like Peepeth. Your real "account" is your Ethereum address, and that's portable between any ETH-based social network.

Sure, but if people want the content they publish to show up in peepeth.com too, wouldn't they want to use the same contract? It would be powerful to see content show up in peepeth that was published via other front-ends.

Aug 29, 2018 20:18

Replying to @conlan (0xa7f3dfed2bcf7b35a8824e11ae8f723650edfb58)

That would take the pressure off of @bevan to implement future feature requests of lower priority since others could immediately start building their own. (ie DM's, user blocking, hashtag channels, etc)

Personally I'd still continue using and supporting peepeth.com (since I like that it's charity focused) but anyone who currently doesn't agree with its Terms of Use would immediately be free to build their own communities elsewhere :)

Aug 29, 2018 20:01

Replying to @conlan (0xa7f3dfed2bcf7b35a8824e11ae8f723650edfb58)

Top priority in my mind would be to decouple the contract from peepeth.com (rebrand it something different, ie OpenMicroblogProtocol) and then make it easy as possible for others to build their front ends (open source the frontend code) @bevan

That would take the pressure off of @bevan to implement future feature requests of lower priority since others could immediately start building their own. (ie DM's, user blocking, hashtag channels, etc)

Aug 29, 2018 19:59

Replying to @conlan (0xa7f3dfed2bcf7b35a8824e11ae8f723650edfb58)

But the underlying platform is unregulated. Anyone can use the contract and write to the platform (https://peepeth.com/front_end), it's only peepeth.com that choses to display specific content that confirms with its terms.

Top priority in my mind would be to decouple the contract from peepeth.com (rebrand it something different, ie OpenMicroblogProtocol) and then make it easy as possible for others to build their front ends (open source the frontend code) @bevan

Aug 29, 2018 19:57

Replying to @JakobPovel (0x995d1bdfd5cdbd31d306d650c2e9f19e5a38bb25)

That's a shame and a missed opportunity. I would love to see what a truly unregulated platform would do, with the different communities that coexist.

But the underlying platform is unregulated. Anyone can use the contract and write to the platform (https://peepeth.com/front_end), it's only peepeth.com that choses to display specific content that confirms with its terms.

Aug 29, 2018 19:52

#TrueDetective season 3 trailer! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpUznQds8p4

Aug 29, 2018 19:43

Replying to @modogg187 (0x937b3774ce62a165f0ea4a9e71355d6a34629023)

https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-accepted-everywhere-square-wins-patent-for-cryptocurrency-payment-network/

Nice!

Aug 29, 2018 19:20
Aug 29, 2018 19:15

Replying to @gordon (0x762da606029d3120735aa1eec15464e265db7a3c)

#lkie

Lol

Aug 29, 2018 18:28

Replying to @Bevan (0x30755d3e65c0cf46c35b72d11e52d941c5fc3a3e)

Thanks for suggesting! Slide to peep is interesting, as is the always-on are-you-sure warnings. Currently, the are-you-sure warnings interrupt the normal pattern; wondering if they'd be effective if they were always on. Maybe there's an optimal frequency.

What about a toggle for folks who want them always on in the settings? “Always ask for my confirmation”

Aug 29, 2018 00:14

Replying to @pluma (0xd9fb1d684627a890347a4f6a7fe32e993617b6d8)

please don't tell me you're planning to unleash a demigorgon upon peepeth. 😱

😈🎄🎥🚲🐌

Aug 28, 2018 23:01

Replying to @cyan (0xcb346cb2754c3136633cd8ae2dcfde699ad704ae)

Where is he, btw? Do you think we can summon @callmegwei if we call him out 3 times? 😇 Ps - I also vote for #peeple

#peeple is cute!

Aug 28, 2018 21:51

Replying to @Jaco (0x2be223f0241577a4fe25df90a7f94cf50721ac26)

A countdown would be great - currently I either try to give an enso but can't, or assume I can't when I can. Just need it to be more clear 😊

Would be cool if you saw an Enso somewhere on your toolbar and it could either be faded out (when used) or fully opaque (to signal you have it available). Clicking it on the toolbar could also show you all the peeps you've enso-ed in the past. Hovering over could show countdown.

Aug 28, 2018 21:50

Replying to @modogg187 (0x937b3774ce62a165f0ea4a9e71355d6a34629023)

I'm truly curious... do you think Google shows more negative coverage of Trump because they're biased, or because there is just more negative coverage? 🤔🤔🤔

Google's worth ~$700 billion dollars -- they didn't get there by serving biased results to push an agenda, they got there by serving relevant results for the search query. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank

Aug 28, 2018 19:27 Enso 2 Enso

Replying to @Sparrow (0xed607ba16f6ac5afbff9ad9b8c02deba2207cbc0)

Hahaha. “Some men just want to watch the profile picture burn.”

Lol!

Aug 28, 2018 18:42

Replying to @Sparrow (0xed607ba16f6ac5afbff9ad9b8c02deba2207cbc0)

If conservatives don’t like being censored, they can always stop using the services that suppress them. After all, there are decentralized platforms to rant on now 😂🐧👌🏼

Exactly! #Dapps like peepeth allow anyone to build frontend clients for the content — something that is NOT possible with Twitter or Facebook. If someone is not satisfied with this client they can build (or support the efforts of building) their own 💯

Aug 28, 2018 18:40

Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)

Ideally all peeps will be batched by the client. With each peep being added to the batch (rather than waiting to sign 15). Thus we can have more clients. Clients could even share the batching to reduce cost and load on the network.

Sounds good to me, man.

Aug 28, 2018 10:05

Replying to @veox (0xf75b78571f6563e8acf1899f682fb10a9248cce8)

Their top-level peeps won't show in the "New" feed. Also, _maybe_ replies from your followees to their peeps won't show in the "Friends" feed (although I'm not sure about this one). You can still see their peeps by navigating directly to someone else's account feed.

Also in the future there could be spam detection based on a high level of muting for a given user.

Aug 28, 2018 10:05

Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)

I want the time between making a peep and it being onchain as short as possible. This allows other clients to see the peep quickly. I think versioning edit and hide will be required.

+1 on reducing the time from post to onchain!

Aug 28, 2018 10:02

Replying to @Jet86 (0x4e6f89dc781d7650200aaf213d63ba3050aa8729)

The question is, do we actually need to delete peeps? Can't we just agree that it's okay to make mistakes?

No way! The finality of peeps is an awesome feature that I wish Twitter had built in :D

Aug 28, 2018 05:08

Replying to @jm9k (0xa7bd09daab3eb5ec96f04914d94c47681489d604)

There was some talk of editing before commit and selective commit at some point. I'm sure the wish list is about a mile long now.

Yeah it's not my biggest feature wish at this time. I'd personally opt for re-branding the underlying smart contract (away from Peepeth) and then publishing documentation for others to use it.

Aug 28, 2018 05:06

Replying to @conlan (0xa7f3dfed2bcf7b35a8824e11ae8f723650edfb58)

Non-editable peeps are fine, but I don't see the point in them being non-editable before going onto the blockchain (clicking sign & save should be the "real" button imo).

But it's fine, I'll still keep using Peepeth regardless. If enough people want that feature then eventually someone will come along and build their own frontend for Peepeth. That's the beauty of #decentralized social networks.

Aug 28, 2018 05:01

Replying to @voyager (0x459948a40918d535407fd49bf2c041d546fc37ae)

These would all be gimmicks that are trying to fix something that's not broken. I'm more for pausing a bit, checking what I wrote and then hitting a send button. Reminds me of talking. I think what I want to say, and then say it. We have the control over what we put out here.

Non-editable peeps are fine, but I don't see the point in them being non-editable before going onto the blockchain (clicking sign & save should be the "real" button imo).

Aug 28, 2018 05:00

Replying to @Encog_Neito (0x514aabce9c8bd7b37492035013b0d8d382bfc2bc)

I’m prettay, prettay, prettay excited about my first peep!

Welcome, Larry!

Aug 28, 2018 00:13

Replying to @pluma (0xd9fb1d684627a890347a4f6a7fe32e993617b6d8)

booourns to me for not remembering it was a simpson's reference first! haha. i had just watched the episode of the office yesterday where pam brought it up.

Nice one! Yeah pretty much everything can be traced back to the #simpsons doing it first XD

Aug 28, 2018 00:11

Replying to @pluma (0xd9fb1d684627a890347a4f6a7fe32e993617b6d8)

interesting that you bring this up -- autocorrect has "trained" us to go on autopilot, essentially. :)

Yup! Essentially anything that can be outsourced to #robots should be :) Spell and grammar checking is tedious and adds friction to getting our ideas out of our heads and into the global consciousness.

Aug 28, 2018 00:10

Replying to @johnpitchers (0xedbb487e8986bded1796c7715e14006660d2f509)

I like this idea. Who hasn't spotted a dumb typo just after pressing the send button?

Pobody's nerfect!

Aug 27, 2018 23:59

Replying to @Sparrow (0xed607ba16f6ac5afbff9ad9b8c02deba2207cbc0)

That is very true! While I consider myself a great writer, I’ve managed to make several typos in recent posts, which will bother me for as long as the peep exists - forever. Haha. From what I can tell, @bevan is awesome, and open to suggestion! Have faith, this place is👌

I do! Peepeth is a wonderful place and @bevan has done a kickass job so far. Also if enough folks disagree with Peepeth frontend then they can build one that suits their needs. The beauty of a #decentralized social network :)

Aug 27, 2018 23:58

Replying to @aribo (0x0cef279811d4fc25bd1d9374c3de46ea06bcb1a3)

Like the idea of adding more friction to posting, yet a slider might too much. Perhaps double click on the button: Before clicking: "Post", After 1 click: "Sure?". Two clicks: "Posted"

Yeah adding a 2nd click with a peep preview would be enough. There's already a confirmation window but it stops being shown after some time. Would be nice to have a toggle for it to always stay on.

Aug 27, 2018 23:53

Replying to @Sparrow (0xed607ba16f6ac5afbff9ad9b8c02deba2207cbc0)

I like the idea @conlan! Edit post window open on every post! :)

Awesome! I think it's easier to let people fix their mistakes rather than change their behavior -- modern apps have trained us to rely more on the #machines being perfect rather than ourselves.

Aug 27, 2018 23:43

Replying to @madhuinc (0x8738777bfe76684b4f761dcf56812b3e2b985b21)

Ok now that is a solid feature request, I love it. +1

😺

Aug 27, 2018 23:30

Replying to @madhuinc (0x8738777bfe76684b4f761dcf56812b3e2b985b21)

Yeah I would agree, before being saved to the blockchain that would be an opportunity to make any corrections.

Editable peeps before blockchain could even be another advanced feature that gets unlocked over time (just like higher character limits) So as you prove yourself you get access to more features @bevan

Aug 27, 2018 23:29

Replying to @conlan (0xa7f3dfed2bcf7b35a8824e11ae8f723650edfb58)

So if you really want to maintain the finality of peeps, then I've recommended an option to have the confirmation window be always on. You could also add a bit more friction to peeps via UI like a slide-to-peep instead of a button.

Personally I think peeps should be editable / deletable before being saved to the blockchain. When I text or search I just bang it out and let autocorrect sort out the details.

Aug 27, 2018 23:20
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