Peeps by @CallMeGwei
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Replying to @Alec (0x23677376bc1b7f48970b83a7ce0d0367395eac9e)
Cipher devs got hired by Coinbase to work on Toshi, so there's practically one less DApp browser out there.
I think @vikmeup keeping everyone on their toes is probably more important than anyone realizes. Decentralized ecosystems can def have centralized bottlenecks in this area. Let's hope he isn't scooped up too!
I hear from a reliable source that isn't something he'd even consider
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
Less posts than users? I’m over 900 peeps now. I think Peepeth came along at the right time. Low gas currently, multiple mobile dApp browsers offering good experience. Neither was true a few months ago.
Timing is critical, you're right - as is time devoted to the project. Leeroy was a side project, whereas Peepeth is clearly a primary project.
Replying to @jm9k (0xa7bd09daab3eb5ec96f04914d94c47681489d604)
On the topic of market decisions, I also see peep length as being subject to this. 280 chars should be a front end "above the fold" limit only. Add a "read more" expansion link for those longer. Why stop posting of a 500 page document? Users decide if they want to read it or not.
To the best of my knowledge, this is actually how it is designed. I think that's the correct approach.
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
Are there stats for how many Leeroy users and how many posts? (@james)
Per @James on Leeroy a month ago:
Stats: 1850 users, 1638 tips worth $377.68, $291.63 of gas, 874 profiles updates, 1645 posts, 410 reposts, 990 replies, 2166 follows.
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
Are there stats for how many Leeroy users and how many posts? (@james)
It got up to ~1600 I want to say... there was no summary page afaik. But @James would give updates on Leeroy every once in a while. I'll go check. brb.
Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)
I don't think Leeroy was ever approached... but it would be interesting to see what kind of company would bid for Peepeth. The backend work is basically a public service, with almost no dev funding built in. The front end business will tend towards being extremely competitive.
I would *LOVE* to see the Ethereum foundation or some other non-profit scoop it up, provide a team - and write it all off as infrastructure work that would help the entire Ethereum platform - because that is what it is, imho.
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
I’m assuming @bevan is busy working the platform. I also assume that people will start knocking on his door for partnering and investment. Engagement is increasing
I don't think Leeroy was ever approached... but it would be interesting to see what kind of company would bid for Peepeth. The backend work is basically a public service, with almost no dev funding built in. The front end business will tend towards being extremely competitive.
Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)
I think that the competition created by the open source and cheap nature of dapps/SC's will result in many willing to operate with less profit (no ads). It'll be interesting to see what features frontends create to be competitive and justify the cost.
Yeah absolutely. I think the sheer number of front-ends will make advertising optional... but I do think it will always be an option.
Replying to @Alec (0x23677376bc1b7f48970b83a7ce0d0367395eac9e)
How long has this been a thing?
It went live yesterday. I don't want to brag... and have no idea if it's true... but I think I received the very first enso given. It was given by @pluma.
I did find it odd @Bevan didn't throw up an announcement for everyone. I think he is under extreme load. Always here to help
Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)
Do you see advertising as a possibility in the future? I hope that with the cheaper running costs of dapps compared to server farms, we can have frontends that avoid this.
I think it will absolutely be an *option* in the future - if for no other reason than people will want to get *paid* for spending time on a social media front-end. And this is ok, I think, because it will be a *choice* rather than the sole option.
Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)
I agree. Let the market decide what is too small! On Leeroy I would often get/give penny tips that cost two cents to give! Three cents is still less than 10 cents, after all. Weren't you just advocating affordability! Just being tough on you. ;-)
Whoops was meant to be for @abcoathup
Replying to @jm9k (0xa7bd09daab3eb5ec96f04914d94c47681489d604)
I say custom amounts should be allowed. The market will decide if it is too big or small due to gas costs.
I agree. Let the market decide what is too small! On Leeroy I would often get/give penny tips that cost two cents to give! Three cents is still less than 10 cents, after all. Weren't you just advocating affordability!
Just being tough on you. ;-)
Replying to @jm9k (0xa7bd09daab3eb5ec96f04914d94c47681489d604)
Under the current revenue model of Peepeth, the only place it could come from is a percentage of tips. That doesn't give a lot of room at the moment, but there also isn't much needed since there is currently no spam.
Income also comes from Verifications. There should be a "stuff" store, but I doubt @Bevan has the spare time to manage it. Premium frontend-features and supporter badges should also be options, again - Bevan is working hard to get the basics bug free.
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
Definitely want a way to view non-spam accounts that are diverse from me.
Me too - spam identification is tricky though. Not sure it's a tricky as Twitter makes it out to be (their advertising model might actually benefit from spam depending on what metrics they bill on), but it is still tricky even just as a thought experiment.
Replying to @jm9k (0xa7bd09daab3eb5ec96f04914d94c47681489d604)
Since the Ethereum network maintains consensus, additional mining isn't required. I think incentives on Peepeth would probably serve more benefit if they took the form of something like rewards for moderation or filtration.
Which would have to come out of the income collected by Peepeth. First we need to be very sure @Bevan can keep eating and developing!
Replying to @bob (0xed3c6bcaaee02ed5ed572f87d36c4cc7d2f2bdef)
By making that "stuff" less of a horse race/competition, we have a unique opportunity to foster a more organic follower base that lends a voice even to the newest to join. In true peepeth form, who you decide to follow shouldn't be a kneejerk reaction; it should be thoughtful. ;)
The good news is that there can be so many front ends - so if one misses a "unique" opportunity - another one can go ahead and implement it!
Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)
@Hannah what will you miss most about China? Almost a decade spent there, right... what was your favorite part?
It doesn't sound like it was the tea... ;-)
@Hannah what will you miss most about China? Almost a decade spent there, right... what was your favorite part?
Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)
Had an interesting thought that I haven't thought out a whole lot but you guys can criticize me. What if Peepeth implemented a web miner into the site that people could just a click a button to access and mine to their wallet directly to fund those peeps?
Well, would work until Proof of Stake... unless some service like omise-go could do an on-the-fly exchange. I actually like this idea as an option.
I think there will also be front ends that will give ETH for a quick AI training session or a quiz...
Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)
I think you can tighten down the scope of whose opinions matter - weighing those of your followers (maybe even by how long you've been following them - or some trust level) rather than pushing "platform wide" recommendations. That would always tend towards spam, imho.
And then... you end up with an echo chamber. I suppose an "explore" section is important - and maybe it can just randomly pull accounts that meet certain criteria and show their recent peeps...
Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)
And with a heavy sigh I immortalize my mistakes onto the blockchain for my great grandchildren to laugh at...
Did I miss one of your typos? Thinking is never a mistake, either is discussion. I think your grandkids will be stoked you were openly discussing things that mattered, in an attempt to shape the future as best you could.
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
A cent or two removes it out of the hands who don’t have that amount of money.
Yeah, I am hyper aware of that - not because of my personal situation, but I spend a lot of time in the Philippines.
Cheaper is better - also more prone to abuse by those with resources.
*looking around frantically* Is there a perfect balance in there somewhere? 🤔
Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)
That paradigm has some logic to it, you have to admit. "You might like this because others really did." I'm not sure you can eliminate the network effect from a social media network and keep content relevant and reward those who post good content.
I think you can tighten down the scope of whose opinions matter - weighing those of your followers (maybe even by how long you've been following them - or some trust level) rather than pushing "platform wide" recommendations. That would always tend towards spam, imho.
Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)
I more so mean weigh things according to their role. Maybe make a tip system using a like button (like enso) that you can click only once per post and costs less, but weighs more like a tip and actually still goes to the OP. Like a like button. Just spitballing.
Yeah, I hear ya. Can we take back that "cheap" like? I vote no! I think the induced thoughtfulness of no "undos" is one of the best features.
Replying to @jm9k (0xa7bd09daab3eb5ec96f04914d94c47681489d604)
#comics #memes #funny
Note quite ensō worthy, but still very like-able... do we need that "cheap" like metric? It really feels like somethings missing without it!
#lkie
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Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)
Its gonna be interesting seeing what works. You will probably see spam. It depends what weight you want it to have. If enso is supposed to weigh more than tips, then it should cost more. If tips are gonna replace the like button, then make them weigh accordingly.
But if we weight everything according to costs... then we are giving people with lesser means less of an opportunity to steer discussion.
I like the notifications that say - *people you follow* gave enso /here/... or tipped /this/ - which we don't have on Peepeth yet.
Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)
Depends how much you want economic incentive to play a role in the platform. I think the time limit is enough, personally, but I see the appeal to raise the price. If we are replacing the like button with tips and enso, I want enso to be relatively easy to give.
Yeah, I love that there is a cheaper option than the (high priced) tips. But if ensō will ever be used for presentation or trending... won't we end up with a spam problem just like Twitter's? I guess each front end will approach this differently...
Replying to @boyd (0xa053d0163c36b89a811b22dfe03bfd35cf42d2d7)
I find myself second-guessing everything I consider writing here. This stuff’s permanent. Probably not a bad thing in the long run. Higher quality to noise ratio when things cannot be deleted and it costs at least a nominal amount to post.
What you're feeling is totally normal. And your conclusions are completely correct.
Just keep peeping!
Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)
How does everyone feel about ensō? Personally, I'm loving it! I was wondering if it should be batch-able though... would raising it's cost make it even more effective/ an even stronger signal? Or is the 24 hour time limit enough? I will go on record against an ensō sorted page.
I think it would lead to a million spam bots giving ensō to spam - of course, that's another argument for mandating it be pushed to the chain immediately. On the other hand, everyone in the world should be able to give ensō... is a cent or two too much?
How does everyone feel about ensō? Personally, I'm loving it! I was wondering if it should be batch-able though... would raising it's cost make it even more effective/ an even stronger signal? Or is the 24 hour time limit enough?
I will go on record against an ensō sorted page.
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Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)
Yeah, so... paper wallets can definitely be secure... but they are also very easy to generate in an *insecure* manner. Using an offline machine is best practice. Check this out: https://www.callmegwei.com/2017/12/23/crypto-101-paper-wallets/
Also, this guide was made a few months ago. Currently you can use either MyEtherWallet or @MyCrypto and the guide is the same. Either way, be sure to thank @tay :-)
Replying to @boyd (0xa053d0163c36b89a811b22dfe03bfd35cf42d2d7)
Find a way to add some booze and I’m in.
Teetotaler here - but I think you can find a way! ;-)
Replying to @Steve (0x9e73f8372515ae24d0a4a16874b2d816e3323846)
2 cups almond/coconut milk heated for 2 mins in microwave, 2 tsp matcha powder (I use culinary grade), 1 tbsp coconut oil, 1 tsp cacao powder, few shakes of cinnamon, dash of ginger and cardamom, 2 droppers of liquid stevia. I add a dash of cayenne pepper too - I like spicy!
Is this the first recipe on Peepeth??!?!
I dub this the (un)official drink of the Peeple! Sorry, best I can do... Bevan has to do all "official" endorsements ;-)
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Replying to @benj (0xae205ace114c76526a87a28d1661a487cd014adc)
I was looking into both the firefly and the ledger earlier but I don’t have access to a 3D printer and I find that the ledger is very expensive... Do you recommend any other diy or cheaper hardware wallets you have come across? Thanks!
Yeah, so... paper wallets can definitely be secure... but they are also very easy to generate in an *insecure* manner. Using an offline machine is best practice. Check this out:
https://www.callmegwei.com/2017/12/23/crypto-101-paper-wallets/
Replying to @bob (0xed3c6bcaaee02ed5ed572f87d36c4cc7d2f2bdef)
Just ordered my Ledger S through @CallMeGwei's reference link. Make sure you get credit, bud. ;)
Thank you, I do appreciate that @bob
Thanks for the kind words, as always, @abcoathup
Replying to @benj (0xae205ace114c76526a87a28d1661a487cd014adc)
Hey everyone! I am looking to buy a hardware wallet but I don’t have a very big budget. Does anyone have any recommendations of wallets I can’t use?
Agree with @abcoathup - and setting up the Ledger is a breeze:
https://www.callmegwei.com/2017/12/09/crypto-101-hardware-wallet-setup/
Replying to @balresch (0xd6d48727d8835b73f8dc511a5baaf3445a6f65c9)
I think we all did :) Still good to play around with different ideas.
Absolutely. Love the intellectual fencing and willingness to experiment with several arguments at once. Really refreshing.
@bryce @balresch @bitgenstein Wish threading worked a littler better - hard to follow the convo perfectly... I love to see these kinds of discussions! Initially inclined to agree with @Bryce here...
Replying to @hankcooper (0x2ef58e7ae0e78d903138f5f606c00f36407f8b94)
Same like a tweet I guess
We don't Tweet here - we Peep here! :)
Replying to @balibebas (0x1f1c2bcae0505db4fb9c51305af8baa976c26af4)
done and dusted
Wondering if the Twitter verification will still persist? Assuming so since a smart contract verified things and moved on...
@bevan
Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)
Peeple: I've just published a little (ok - rather long) introduction to Peepeth and the benefits of decentralized social media platforms. Feedback appreciated. https://www.callmegwei.com/2018/04/13/peepeth-the-decentralized-twitter-alternative/
Thanks so much for the tip @zoe !
and the kind words - @tim
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
Jinx. Buy me a Coke (Zero). We need to add to the FAQ and then post links.
I'd love to buy you a coke zero, but it had to be IRL. Don't think you won't know when I'm visiting Australia. ;-)
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
Your 12 word seed phrase is your username/password/identity all rolled into one. You can import into multiple apps but triple check the app against multiple sources to make sure it is what you think it is. https://www.callmegwei.com/2018/02/08/different-wallets-same-you/
Whoops - I gave the same response. Thanks for sharing my stuff @abcoathup - keeps me motivated! :-)
Replying to @BradyDale (0x11160b379555dcb6d7269e4612bbadd16242db31)
OK, super stupid question: But I joined Peepeth on my browser. Is there a way I can activate it on my mobile, on Toshi, as well? I cannot figure this out. I confess: I am a crypto reporter and I really don't get Metamask...
"Seed words" is the short answer. If you need a helping hand, then check this out:
https://www.callmegwei.com/2018/02/08/different-wallets-same-you/
Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)
Not sure that the mosquito badge should be used. It seems effective for filtering out spam but its also directly incentivizing people to pay up. People will feel pressured to buy every badge and we don't know what future paid badges could pop up.
They should be limited to charitable badges, if anything and probably comprise only a small part of the score.
Spending money with (verifiable) third parties seems like a bad proxy for authenticity at first glance - but spammers cannot afford to do this en masse. May make sense.
@tay - Bevan shared the '[WIP] "Censoring" Decentralized, Uncensorable Platforms w/ User Generated Content' earlier. I think it's really awesome that you're collaborating with him and spending your time teasing out the issues and possible solutions. Ensō worthy, imho..
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
I’m on mobile using #Cipher.
This is because of the way some of the images are loaded... I think @Bevan is using a service for the url cards ... maybe it needs to be configured to only display images over https? I've also made Bevan aware of this issue.
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
Peep reputation: Peep age/# Profile picture Verifications on twitter and mosquito Number of peeps Number of followers Tips received (quantity and value) Ensō received Peepers who have met you in real life
Is this a brainstorm? Or notes from a collab with Bevan to quantify a rep score? Tell me more! :)
Replying to @bitgenstein (0x13be1af70ff037d1d3ddbdd16a3ef79c6cbfb2fd)
Good points about free people. Quick q: EOS (and others) aim for a future w/o user-facing transaction fees, or w/ fees essentially built into mathematically-controlled inflation. Maybe social media and even Peeps will eventually live in a model both free *and* “free”?
I think that even with user-paid gas costs there will be front ends that use advertising to make the experience "free" - possibly with refunds or some clever authorization contracts.At least there will be a choice...
(Maybe even a dpos sidechain... choices, ftw.)
Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)
Peeple: I've just published a little (ok - rather long) introduction to Peepeth and the benefits of decentralized social media platforms. Feedback appreciated. https://www.callmegwei.com/2018/04/13/peepeth-the-decentralized-twitter-alternative/
@cruz - thanks for the ensō! Glad to know you're still around!
@vikmeup - thanks for sharing and the convo
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